Wednesday, March 21, 2012

"MONUMENTAL" MOVIE: WILL IT FLOP OR BE A HIT?

Kirk Cameron of "Growing Pains" fame is creating quite a commotion with the release of his new movie, "Monumental: In Search of America's National Treasure".   

MONUMENTAL is an ambitious documentary about actor Kirk Cameron’s quest to understand why America is falling apart and what made it such a great country in the first place.  Many Christian leaders are saying this is a very important movie with excellent information supporting the Christian roots of the American experiment.

Here's a short summary of the film:   MONUMENTAL is an ambitious documentary about actor Kirk Cameron’s quest to understand why America is falling apart and what made it a great country in the first place.  He’s asking these questions because he has young children and wants them to have a better future.  Kirk’s search for answers takes him to England to find out more about the Pilgrims, who created the first representative government when they landed in Plymouth. Massachusetts.  Using interviews with historians and experts such as Marshall Foster and David Barton, he finds out more and more about the Christian roots of the American experiment.  And by the way, MovieGuide recommends the flick which is set to debut on March 27th.  Here is a trailer of the movie.





But not so fast.  Brannon Howse, the host of a national radio program that is broadcast nationwide as well as the host of the Worldview Weekend Hours, a weekly television program that airs on NRB-TV feels the movie has much misinformation within the 90 minute tribute to the "Search for America's National Treasure".  Here is Howe's criticism at length.

"I believe those involved with this project are very sincere in their endeavor, however, I have serious reservations abut the message the film project appears to be conveying.  I feel the need to be gracious with people on this topic because for many years I was committed to the fallacy of moralizing, Americanism, Christian activism and the need to "reclaim America". I even pulled one of my own books which was published in 2005. I have pulled several Worldview Weekend DVDs that promoted the reconstructionism or "reclaiming America" message. I have asked my radio and television audience to forgive me if my example caused them to take their focus off our ultimate calling which is the proclamation of the gospel.
 
I called my friend Kirk Cameron and left him a voice mail in the early summer of 2011 to warn him of the Americanism trap that had ensnared me for a time and I wanted him to learn from my mistakes. If Kirk had returned my call I would have shared some of the information contained in this article concerning America's founding. This article and movie grieves me because Kirk has been a friend for several years and has stayed in my home and traveled and spoken for many Worldview Weekends. In addition to asking him to privately examine this evidence with me, I also invited him to be a guest on my radio program for February 27, 2012 to discuss his film and his appearance on the TV program of Mormon Glenn Beck to discuss his Christian film; but that did not take place.

Therefore, even at the risk up upsetting friends, I must now turn my attention to warning the church of the trap of uniting the things of God with the ungodly things of this world and believing that God will bless our nation when such actions will only hasten God's judgment on our land. 
Aside from the "let's get back to our founding fathers" message that I find objectionable because many of America's founding fathers were hostile to the gospel, the movie Monumental appears to use as one of its major props The National Monument to the Forefathers, formerly known as the Pilgrim Monument.  The monument is a major part of the artwork and publicity of the film including in the movie trailer. 

It is my belief based on hours of research that the Monument to the Forefathers is not a Biblically acceptable rallying point or symbol for Christians or Christian families or the way we should go for several reasons. One major reason would be that historical documents report that the monument had its cornerstone laid by Freemasons who were involved in part in funding and erecting this monument. The historical record also reveals that the cornerstone includes a plaque with the name and title of the Grand Master of the Lodge of Freemasons of Massachusetts. The historical record also reports that members of the Pilgrim Society that assisted in establishing and paying for the monument included freemasons and funding from freemasonry lodges. Below I have included the speech given by the Mason Grand Master of Massachusetts at the cornerstone ceremony on August 2, 1859.
Documented in the book Plymouth Memories of an Octogenarian by William T. David, published in 1906, the laying of the cornerstone for the Monument to the Forefathers included a "Masonic procession" consisting of a long list of Masonic lodges and the Knights Templar, a Catholic order.
At ten o'clock a Masonic procession was formed on Main Street, consisting of the Massachusetts, Boston and DeMoley encampments of Knights Templar, under command of John T. Heard, [Mason Grand Master] and marched to the Rock, president of the Pilgrim Society and invited guests, St. Paul's lodge of South Boston, lodge of Cambridge, Liberty lodge of New Bedford, Star of the East lodge of New Bedford, King Solomon lodge of Charlestown, Boston brass band, Washington lodge of Roxbury, the Plymouth lodge, Plymouth brass band, Royal Arch chapter of New Bedford, Boston encampment of Knights Templar, Royal Arch Chapter of South Abington, South Abington band, DeMoley encampment, Grand lodge of Massachusetts. 
When you add in the Knights Templar, a Catholic Order, the Masons and the Pastor of the First Church that offered a prayer, this was a real ecumenical project and monument so why are Christians rallying around it?
One of the sculptors of the monument was Alexander Doyle who also was involved in a marble sculpture of Mason President James Garfield. This sculpture stands over the crypt that contains President Garfield remains in Cleveland, Ohio.

2 Corinthians 6:14, Romans 16:17, 2 John 9-11, forbid Christians from being bound together with unbelievers in a common enterprise. These verses further reveal that there can be no agreement between the temple of God [Christians are the temple of God] and idols. These verses make it clear that the church, [and Christians make up the church] are not to take the practices, methods, symbols, and enterprises of the unsaved world and incorporate them into our worship and service to God.
In I Kings 18:21 the Prophet Elijah admonishes the Children of Israel to stop mixing their worship of God with paganism.
And Elijah came to all the people, and said, "How long will you falter between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow Him; but if Baal, follow him." But the people answered him not a word.
Ironically, the Masons worship Baal. As researcher and Mason expert Ed Deckers reveals:
It is in the Royal Arch Degree that the secret name  of the Masonic deity is revealed. That name is "JAHBULON."  "JAH" is the short form of the Hebrew name of God, "Yahweh," or "Jehovah." "BUL" is a rendering of the name, BAAL. "ON" is the term used in the Babylonian mysteries to call upon the deity, "OSIRIS"! The secret ritual book of the Craft prints the letters J.B.O. It states that:
"We three do meet and agree-in peace, love and unity-the Sacred Word to keep and never to divulge the same-until we three, or three such as we do meet and agree."

Let's be very clear; this statue was built by people that had no convictions about having it erected, funded, and dedicated even in part by men that served Satan. Should Christians now unite around and worship God at this monument? Should Christians invite the church to use this statue as a symbol of spiritual service to God?  Should Christians use this statue as a symbol of anything but to reveal man's vain and futile attempts to mix God or Christianity with paganism? Should this monument really be a Gilgal stone for Christians? 


Conclusion:
Christians seeking to "reclaim America" or "get back to the founding fathers" will not invite God's blessing by holding up men, institutions, traditions, and symbols that are not honorable to God. Christians will not invite God's favor but God's judgment when they disobey His Word and mix pagan beliefs, a pagan statue, and worldly symbolism with our worship and service to Him. 

So you can see from the movie information released by MovieGuide and the response from Mr. Howse there is a tremendous difference in thought and where he movie is headed.  I'd encourage any and all to set aside March 27th to catch this controversial project.  It could be Monumental.

YGG,

John
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29 comments:

  1. Is it possible that Masons of the founding fathers time was not the same as the Masons of modern times?

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    1. Here's a documentary that should help answer your question more completely. This a video by Chris Pinto (Noise of Thunder Radio). This is a video I first heard recommended by Brannon Howse (Worldview Weekend) and we were so glad we watched it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU24fJ4NQxo&feature=related

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  2. If you look at the history of the Mason's its pretty obvious they are one and the same.

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  3. Sorry but I think you miss the entire point of the movie as well as trying to limit God's power. Many many times throughout the bible, God uses non-Christian, non- God honoring, idol worshipping people to accomplish His purpose. Good grief, half the folks in the bible were murderers or cowards, adulterers etc. Therefore I am quite sure God, at least MY GOD, can use a statue from 150 years ago for his glory regardless of who built it or who had a parade. It is not like Kirk or the movie is trying to persuade viewers to become free masons. Your objection is a red herring. I think Kirk's point of view, is that this country was founded by Christians, or at least the majority of them were (seriously, how many of the signers were pastors or leaders within their church? The VAST majority)as being founded by Christians, then Christians in fact should be able to point to that foundation in wanting this country to be headed in the direction and on the principals of which it was founded. When the president of this country says, "we are NOT a Christian nation", then Christian folks, in love, need to set the record straight. Separation of church and state, along with a myriad of other misconceptions give impetus to those who would have this nation run strictly from a secularist view point. This is not to say that the U.S. constitution trumps the bible, and I do not see Kirk even trying to infer that in the presentation. This country can strive to be redirected into God's will, by voting for Christian leadership.

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    1. My point early on in the blog is "this is an important movie". The critique is from a pretty well-know Christian leader who is shedding light on why he thinks the movie is missing the point. I'm suggesting to go and make up your own mind. That's all....

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    2. sorry, my mistake - I should have read more closely, I attributed the entire article to you. My apologies.

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    3. Well said! Thank You!

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  5. No apologies needed. Thanks for reading!!

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  6. A few historical notes:

    The Treaty of Tripoli, ratified by the US Congress in 1797: "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."

    James Madison: "Strongly guarded. . . is the separation between religion and government in the Constitution of the United States."

    Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to the Committee of the Danbury Baptist Association, used the phrase "wall of separation between church and State."

    Jefferson again, in a letter to Horatio Spafford in 1814: "In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."

    Jefferson, in a letter to John Adams; "And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."

    Jefferson, in Notes On The State Of Virginia: "There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites."

    Jefferson, one of the main sources of our founding documents, was actually a deist, not a Christian. Christian leaders of his time knew him well, and fought to keep him from being elected President. There was actually quite a range of beliefs among our Founding Fathers. An excellent exploration of this topic is "Founding Faith" by Steven Waldman.

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    1. Very easy to take sentences out of context from the original documents. If the founding fathers were so against religion, why did Congress print the first English language Bible in America for use in schools? Why did the signers of the Declaration and Constitution use their own money to produce a family Bible to be printed and distributed? Revisionist history, like what you pass on in your selected quotes doesn't reflect the overwhelming evidence of the founder's belief in a nation founded on Christian principles.

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    2. Could you provide that overwhelming evidence?

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    3. Also - if those sentences are taken out of context, please provide the context that will change the meaning of the quotes.

      As for the signers of the Declaration and Constitution producing a family Bible, how do you reconcile that with Jefferson's Bible?

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    4. Jefferson had severe theological issues - no doubt - but then if you find the perfect church, don't join it cause you will just ruin it for everyone else. Jefferson, knew Christianity, but chose his own road through it - he did not believe in any of the miracles in the bible, because they could not be proven by the science of the day, he chose not to believe in them - actually cut them out of his own bible so as not to have to read them, but did in fact keep his bible. Had he not believed in the virtues of Christianity wouldn't he simply have thrown it away? There are just a many quotes where Jefferson quoted the virtues of Christianity to prove a point. Was he the perfect, never sinning never wrong Christian, no, he was not. So far there has only been one of those, and he did not aspire to public office. As for the Danbury Baptist, that is a red herring (false trail.) The real issue is not what was Jefferson's answer, but what was the question asked of him by the baptist. The baptist were concerned with the 1st amendment to the constitution, in that it granted them rights BY THE GOVERNMENT that they considered rights ALREADY GRANTED TO THEM BY GOD. They were concerned that if the government could assume to grant them the rights already given them by the All Mighty, then the government could also take them away. Hence the reply by Jefferson, of wall of separation of church and state, was to assure the church of the protection of the church FROM THE GOVERNMENT. NOT protection of the government from the church. Let's not forget, that these are all in private letter, and not in anyway official U.S. documents. As for the treaty with the Muslims - it was regarding the Federal government, not the country. Libya was a theocracy, where the church and the government was one and the same. They assumed that of this country, not understanding that while the Federal government (and hence the people making the treaty with Libya) may be made up of Christians, it itself, that is the government, was a separate entity from Christianity. This was in contrast to England where in order to hold any public office required you to be a member of the Church of England; and also allowed the theocratic Muslim government to sign a treaty with the U.S. without signing as their religion submitting to another religion.

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  7. I'm fascinated by this topic, and came across this website: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/farrell_till/myth.html

    What do you all think of what it says?

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  8. This has been a great discussion topic. I hope you all connect on the additional sources others are providing. We are hours away from MONUMENTAL hitting the screen. I encourage everyone to catch this movie and see if it challenges you to dig deeper. I have a feeling it will.....and we can thank Kirk Cameron for that.

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  9. Kirk Cameron was on growing pains, not family ties.

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  10. Good catch. I even googled Kirk to make sure and still got it wrong. Appreciate you keeping us on trivia lane.

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  11. Easy mistake, unless you were a pre-teen girl in the 80s with a crush on Kirk! I just got back from viewing Monumental. I definitely think Mr. Howse is over-thinking the use of the monument in the movie. I loved it and will definitely use it as a teaching tool with my students. I teach at a private Christian school.

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  12. You do not know what you are talking about. For one, the Knights Templars have not been a part of the Catholic Church since the early 1300's, when King Philip IV of France was instrumental in persecuting them through his own greed. They were forced to flee, as many were murdered. Today, the Knights Templar is a higher order the body of Free-Masonry within the York Rite. The highest order is Shiners. Where do you get off on proclaiming Masons as "un-believer?" I for one am a Mason, Knights Templar, and deacon of a Baptist church. One cannot be a Mason, unless he believes in God. FYI, George Washington and many signers of the Declaration of Independence were Masons. You need to get your facts straight. Also, I saw Kirk’s movie tonight and it was inspirational.

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  13. Why are we trying to find everything wrong with this movie. I personally found it very moving and I believe that if it were not for the pilgrims and our Founding Father's, I would never have experienced the Freedom and Liberty that I grew up with. It really doesn't matter to me who their "Higher Power" was, they did what their internal heart was telling them. They would die for their freedom and liberty. Just their coming accross the Atlantic on the Mayflower during that time was an absolute miracle! Their morals and values were in the right place and it was quite obvious that they were not evil people. We should learn from what they did...they are the reason that we were and hopefully will again be the greatest nation on Earth. Why is it that anyone would want anything different? By the way, I think Kirk should get an award for his outstanding perfomanceD!

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  14. Thanks for the summation of your movie experience. I hope to share that same revelation. In Des Moines, the movie theatre had technical issues with the first showing and cancelled the second. Awaiting word on the movie being shown tonight. In regards to posters feeling the criticism leveled at Monumental are MY words, please read again. Those are Mr. Howse's words. If you would read again, many Christian leaders are saying this is an important movie...which I agree. And providing information beforehand should allow most to make an educated reflection on what they saw and support or disprove the stance they have. Simply that.

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  15. Saw the movie last night and then came home and immediately jumped on the internet to see how the liberal media would take everything out of context in order to discredit it, and the first site I found was Howse's, and I know he is a Christian and not considered liberal media, but he said all of what he said based on the trailer. Not the movie, the trailer.
    The statue in question (The National Monument to the Forefathers)is not some rallying point to be worshipped, as Howse assumes, but rather a point of inspiration and calibration.
    Now, I am a HUGE cynic, and I battle with faith on a daily basis and often scoff at things like Left Behind and Fireproof, but this movie actually had facts to back up the claims, i.e. Congress printing the first English bibles to be distributed to schools, etc. That actually happened in this country, regardless of how hard the liberal left and non-believers try to change the history books of today.
    The point of the movie is that this country began as a dream of independence from religous tyranny, where men could worship God freely without persecution. And this country did exactly that for several centuries and prospered in many, many ways. And now, within the scope of 50 years, God has been taken out of our country by almost hostile means, and look at where we are today. America is a joke. We are miserable. We are sick. We are dying.
    The point of the movie is a question. "How do we fix it?"
    That's it. Pretty simple. How do we fix America? CAN we fix America?

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  16. What about the people who were murdered when we came here? What about the rights of women, blacks, gays and many others? But hell, lets go back to a time where only the straight white man had rights. Oh another thing. Why do we have to put religion into everything! I guess I'm going to hell. If there is one. Which there isn't! We need to change how our government is run. Yes, I get that. But please, no religion crap. I'm so sick of it!

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  18. Nice censorship there, admin...

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  19. For those of you who think the criticism leveled at "Monumental", is from me, you need to read the blog again. Those words are from Brannon Howse. I offered information before his words that explained the movie from Kirk Cameron's side and the reason many Christian leaders feel that it has importance. This blog was written for anyone to find out both sides of the story before going to the movie and then make up their own mind where they stand on the issue. Certainly "Monumental" offers an opportunity to dialogue in a humane manner....not accusatory, and not one full of sorted language, where many feel our country is headed.

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  20. San Jose, Ca

    I saw the movie last night and thank you Kirk Cameron for the wonderful narration and the research to reveal to the world the true picture of the torture the Mayflower pilgrims, puritans endured before they got to the New World and the freedom to worship and use the bible without losing their lives! It was great movie and I hope it will be in a DVD for us to give to family and friends soon!

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